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The VSE & ESAS: "An orgy of pork"


I've always suspected this new "Vision for Space Exploration" was bunk. It was dreamed up by political flacks, with no reaal input into it by engineers, no lessons of the last ~30 years learned.
Repeating the same mistakes, avoiding making changes to actually do something in space, in favor of making headlines for the moment, and the space program going nowhere.

None of the claimed advntages of using supposedly "Shuttle-derived" technology exist.

"Safe, Simple, Soon" was a marketing ploy, based on no real numbers. None of the mission hardware shares any commonality with Shuttle, but the people in the congressional districts all get to stay in their jobs doing the massive re-design of everything.
By sticking steadfastly with hardware which was "designed" by politicians, they're driving the costs up, time is going to be many times the original estimates and most likely not at all.

Very likely, it'll all melt down and come to nothing (like every other space program re-envisioning of the last 30 years). We'll be lucky to have access to LEO with the Soyuz. Access to the ISS, which has absolutely no reason for being there except to suck up money.

Apollo 2.0: Moon Program on Drugs
By Jeffrey F. Bell.
(link to word.doc article)
www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-apollo-2.doc

The basic problem with the ESAS program, from which all the technical problems I have enumerated above derive, is that it isnt really a space program at all. It is a vote-buying program.
Everything about the ESAS architecture is optimized for political advantage, not efficiency. Every current Shuttle contractor and every NASA Center gets to stay at the feeding trough. And this program will need a lot of feeding.
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http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Scrap_The_Stick_Now.html

-- Edited by john fraz at 09:49, 2007-04-06

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More criticism of ESAS


Vision For Space Exploration Facing Critical Juncture

The highly touted ESAS plan for returning to the Moon turns out to have a serious problem: it won't work.
by Jeffrey F. Bell
Honolulu HI (SPX) Apr 12, 2006
NASA Space Flight has published a leaked NASA study called "LRA-0" which is spreading despair and gloom through the space community. Many people are surprised that the architecture for returning men to the Moon laid out in the famous ESAS report is declared to be totally unworkable in this new document.

But no one should be surprised. I pointed this out four months ago, and anyone who has followed the announced and rumored changes to the ESAS plan since its appearance could see that it was in serious trouble.

The 723-page ESAS report went to elaborate lengths to justify its particular choices of spacecraft, boosters, engines, and fuels. Many of these justifications were obviously phony. (My favorite was a long table of expensive modifications that would supposedly be needed to "man-rate" the Delta-4H or Atlas-5H.)

It was clear to many astute observers that the ESAS program was a political one. It was designed to mollify Congress by keeping almost every worker in the dying Space Shuttle program in his present job, performing the same task in the same factory in the same politician's district.

Little attention was given to financial or technical feasibility. Cost and schedule estimates by Shuttle contractors were accepted without any attempt to check them (even though those contractor estimates have proven wildly optimistic in the past).

So it was inevitable that once Congress was on board many of those politically optimum choices would be changed. NASA has adopted or studied numerous options that were "considered" and rejected by ESAS.

The LRA-0 presentation provides a compressed summary of these changes and the reasons why they are under consideration. The problems that have appeared with the ESAS plan are basically the same ones I identified four months ago:


* The CEV and LSAM are too large and consequently too heavy.
* The CEV, LSAM, and EDS use cryogenic propellants that are not space-storable.
* The old Shuttle hardware is unsuited for its new roles and must be extensively redesigned.
* The 1.5-launch concept and 6-month lunar stay time place severe demands on the hardware.
* Weight and performance margins in the ESAS study were inadequate.

Unfortunately, every change intended to solve one of these problems has made at least one of the others worse.

The use of LCH4 in the CEV and LSAM ascent stage had to be dropped because of the 6-month space storage requirement for these modules. Methane is significantly harder to keep liquid than LOX, and over 180 days on or near the Moon much of it would boil off due to heating of the tanks by sunlight.

So NASA was forced to adopt traditional storable NTO/MMH propellants. These have lower ISP than LO2/LCH4 and exacerbate the weight problem. The reduction of the CEV's diameter from 5.5m to 5.0m was intended to compensate for this weight increase - but apparently has not.

The air-start SSME planned for Stage 2 of the CLV presented serious technical challenges, so it was replaced by the old J-2. To make up the lost performance and/or increased CEV weight, Stage 1 was changed from the existing 4-segment SRB to a new 5-segment SRB. This increased the projected development cost from ~$1B to ~$3B.

Mike Griffin is reportedly dissatisfied with the high refurbishment costs of the SRBs and is considering making the new version expendable to reduce operating costs - the same reason given 35 years ago for making them refurbishable!

The vast expense involved in dropping 5 SSMEs to the sea bottom on each mission has led to consideration of using the cheaper RS-68 in the CaLV core stage. This change would reduce operating costs, but increase the weight and reduce the ISP.

The CaLV core cannot be lengthened to restore performance because the total stack height is already near the VAB door clearance. If it is made thicker it can no longer be produced with the old Shuttle ET tooling in New Orleans.

The EOR mission architecture leaves the LSAM and EDS in Earth orbit waiting for the CEV to launch. In January, the loiter time requirement for both these modules was increased from 25 days to 95 days. Both EDS and the LSAM descent stage use LH2 fuel, which is even harder to store in space than methane.

Extra fuel might be included to allow for boiloff. But if by some miracle the CEV's countdown goes perfectly and it actually does launch on schedule, these stages will have too much LH2 and the surplus must either be carried to the moon or dumped by a "Thermodynamic Vent System" before the TLI burn (with complications to the navigation).

The LRA-0 report assumes the use of as many as 140 layers of aluminized Mylar on the LH2 tanks. Each of these layers would have to be installed and inspected separately, by highly paid technicians. And these tanks are not small.

The cost of using this superinsulation would be huge. (The presentation doesn't consider a third option of including a small reliquification plant, probably because the power and weight demands are excessive).

It is no exaggeration to say that the original ESAS plan now lies in ruins. There is virtually nothing left of the original claims of low development cost and high inheritance from Shuttle.

The authors of LRA-0 propose two main options for salvaging the program which both have the smell of desperation about them. One of them completely undercuts the supposed justifications for the program.

The L2-rendevous scenario is unattractive from a safety standpoint. The crew transfers to the LSAM soon after TLI and rides out to the Moon in the lander, while the unmanned CEV goes further out to L2.

The astronauts are a long way away from their only ride home if anything goes wrong. Furthermore, the return flight Moon-lunar orbit-L2-Earth lasts an extra 6 days which considerably increases the risk of the crew being fried by a solar flare.

The "Wal-Mart Lander" option is even more unacceptable. This vehicle is massively scaled down from the original LSAM. It has no airlock, carries only two astronauts instead of four and 500kg of science gear instead of 2300kg. Even worse, it is limited to landing near the lunar equator. It cannot explore the possible polar ice deposits.

This change would be a poison pill for the program, because then it really would be little different from Apollo. Critics who have derided the LSAS plan as "Apollo Redo" or "Back to the Future" would be vindicated. Political support would vanish overnight. What would be the point of repeating a project we already did 50 years before?

It seems that only major changes in the ESAS architecture can save this program. Here is what we should look for in a possible "VSE Get-Well Program":


* Abandon the CLV entirely and use one of the EELVs for CEV orbital test flights
* Drop the 1.5-launch scenario and go to a 2xCaLV plan (like von Braun's original EOR plan for Apollo 1.0) to simplify launch operations.
* Launch the CEV and LSAM on one booster, the EDS on another. Tweak the mission profile to equalize the masses of the two loads. This reduces the LH2 boiloff problem on the LSAM to a manageable level.
* Cut back the payload of the CaLV enough to allow the use of the current 4-segment SRBs and RS-68 core engines.
* Reduce the 95-day LEO loiter time for the EDS stage to a more reasonable number.

In this plan development costs are reduced, commonality with Shuttle is increased, but operations costs are likely to be as high or even higher than in the ESAS plan. But there really isn't any way around this.

The LRA-0 report just makes official what I've been telling you all along: There's no free lunch in space. There isn't any magic technology or management trick that will make it possible to fly double-Apollo missions on a half-Apollo budget. As long as we use throw-away vehicles powered by rocket engines, space travel will be extremely expensive. If we aren't willing to pay for a real space program, we should get out of the game and stop wasting our money.

Bell's earlier article is available only as a word doc, at
Apollo 2.0: Moon Program on Drugs
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-apollo-2.doc

[Editor's Note: an update to this report has been published at http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA_Says_False_Documents_Behind_Recent_Lunar_Study_Article.html]

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RE: The VSE & ESAS: "An orgy of pork"


Well, I can comment on the "Air Start SSME."

The SSME in the current configuration is what is called a "Head Start" engine, which means that the combined pressure of the ET prelaunch pressurization and the height of the propellant column pressing down on the engines, provides the initial pressurization needed to start the engines. The SSMEs are very complex machines--and they need the pressure so that as the turbopumps start to spin up, they don't cavitate. If the pumps cavitate, trailing edges of the impellar can erode, crack or pit. If that happens, then when the pump reaches full flow at full rated pressure, the impellar will vibrate and explode, losing the engine, and because of the energies involves probably the vehicle--and this equates to Loss of Crew with the Shuttle.

The costs involved in building an air start version of the SSME involves redesigning the booster pumps for increased power output and boost pressure--already two new pumps. Also, preignition tank pressurization will need to be higher, which isn't necessarily that big of a deal, but it does make the tanks heavier. Various systems on the engine controller will have to be recalibrated to a different startup sequence--and they will have to be programed to look for a different set of anomolies (which can only be occumulated through thorough testing and flight experience.) Also an extensive regime of testing will be needed, probably involving atleast 6-10 flights, just to work out the bugs and certify the engines for manned flight.

And the J-2X is starting to look like a new engine too--it just resembles the old J-2 series in performance, pump and duct configuration, and chamber and nozzle size. But it is going to be enough of systemic change to be considered a different engine.

Space exploration using rockets isn't cheap, and probably never will be. Unfortunately!



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