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Roushandel

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Undisclosed Nuclear Secret Facilities At Ghadir


 


In my work I have come across information that was passed on to Mr. Xavier Solana's office. The information deals with an undeclared nuclear site which is active in Iran. It is my understanding that todate, this information has not been dealt with properly by the appropriate officials.


 


According to this information, the Iranian leadership sees its commitment to suspend enrichment activities as merely a recommendation. In effect, covert enrichment activity is being carried out in Iran in a military camp named Ghadir. This camp is located between Esfahan and Shiraz. There are many dumps of radioactive material stored underground in Ghadir.


 


I don't know whether this information has been passed to Mr. Solana himself, but I know for a fact that certain officials who have access to this information don't want it to be made public for their own reasons.


 


I call upon whoever reads this message - Please help me to make it public and distribute it to as many people as you can. Help me prevent Iran from risking the lives of all the residents on the area of Ghadir, who are not aware of the fact that they are exposed to rediating materials in their surroundings.


 


Roushandel


 


 



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GoogleNaut

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RE: Undisclosed Nuclear Secret Facilities At Ghadi


Well, I don't know.

I have a feeling that the Iranians probably have several 'undisclosed' nuclear sites--whether the press or the US State Department likes to admit it or not.

I believe the Iranians will pursue enrichment programs--and I feel confident that even now they are edging closer to producing domestic HEU (highly enriched uranium.)

I don't like the idea of an Iran HEU or possibly weapons grade uranium in its possession, but we must ask ourselves what we are prepared to do about it.

Are we prepared to go to war over it? I think the Israelis probably are--but the U.S.? I don't know--our plate's a little full right now.

What can happen with a nuclear armed Iran? Probably not much. Israel would still possess an arsenal potent enough to destroy Iran all by itself--so direct nuclear confrontation would not be in Iran's interests. However, this would be a form of deterrent provided the Iranian leadership were rational enough to fear nuclear retaliation.

What about proliferation? A more complex and possibly more dangerous question. Iran could provide countries or radical groups with nuclear expertise and materials to initiate their own weapons programs. This is possible, and is a real danger (and represents the basis for REAL concern for Israel and the USA.) However, in order for Iran to become a real nuclear power, on par with say even Pakistan or India, then Iran would have to vastly expand its nuclear infrastrcture. It is difficult to hide such a general nationwide expansion--warning signs would no doubt be spotted well in advance.

Iran is persuing ballistic missile technology--isn't that dangerous? Yes, but who isn't pursuing it? Just because a county has the technical knowhow to build an IRBM does not necessarily imply it has the capability to build nuclear tipped ICBM's. Still, even if it did have one a two, it would still need to field dozens or hundreds to become a credible world threat. To do that, Iran would have to possess a mature nuclear and ballisitc missile infrastructure with advanced lightweight nuclear weapons designs and large and complex missiles. It has neither.

Iran's nuclear ambitions are a concern, but I don't necessarily agree with the rabid fear the subject generates. They haven't even tested a nuke yet. Come to think of it, neither has North Korea, so how do we know they aren't bluffing as well.

It should be the policy of any country in the possession of a mature nuclear deterrent to make public that a nuclear attack on them would cause instant nuclear retaliation. It is the only true way to deter nuclear attack by nuclear nations.

As for terrorist organizations--it would seem unlikely that such an organization could possess the materials necessary to construct more than one or two bombs. While the loss of a couple of cities would certainly constitute a national or world catasrophe (I'm sure the residents of the destroyed cities would feel the same way,) it would not however be an "End of the World" event. Certainly the parties responsible would be hunted down, and the sponsoring countries would certainly risk the nuclear wrath of the nation attacked.

The way to beat terrorism is to genuinely address the grievences which nurturer it while simultaneously making public that terrorist attacks with nuclear weapons will cause retaliation against terrorist sponsoring countries. This puts terrorist sponsors on the spot to self-deterr their terrorist pupils. Once the greivences are addressed and terrorism is made costlier than negotiation--then terrorism will stop.

In My Humble Opinion,

Ty Moore


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10kBq jaro

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RE: Undisclosed Nuclear Secret Facilities At Ghadir


From a strictly technical point of view, enrichment activity per-se is *not* "risking the lives of all the residents," because it does *not* expose residents "to rediating materials in their surroundings."


Also, the only "waste" product of uranium enrichment is DU (Depleted Uranium) which is even less radioactive than natural uranium (and much less radioactive than the feebly radioactive HEU product, whose radioactivity is enhanced largely due to the U-234 light isotope fraction ending up in the HEU product, along with U-235).


So I would not expect there to be "many dumps of radioactive material stored underground in Ghadir," if the only activity of concern is enrichment.


However, if there are uranium mining and milling operations in the area, that would be an entirely different question.


Improperly handled mining and milling waste can certainly pose a significant risk, as it contains many of the uranium decay chain products, like Radium, Polonium, short-lived isotopes of Thorium, Radon gas, etc.


On the other hand if, as you say, the waste -whatever it is - is in "underground dumps," then the residents will not likely be exposed to any risks.


As for distributing your message (which at this point sounds confusing), I would suggest you try posting at Know Nukes, where other participants may be able to help.


Its at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Know_Nukes/messages



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Al Chime

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I dont know who this Solana is but I dont like the idea of living next to radioactive waste dump. I looked on a map of Iran but could not find the place Ghadir, if no one know where this place is how can anybody help.


Al Chime



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GoogleNaut

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This is a surprisingly good question. Doing several searches I have found that Ghadir, Iran exists, but I have been unable to find a map with its location on it.

Surely such information exists, even if it is only the latitude and longitude coordinates--but I have been unable to find it.

Here is a nice paper, in PDF format dated 1998 (a little dated but not too bad) it contains a good overview of Iran's nuclear industrial potential. and is titled:
"Iran's Nuclear Fascilities: a Profile"

It is available at:

http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/pdfs/iranrpt.pdf

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