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Kevin J waldroup

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Nuclear salt water rocket powered space fighter


Nuclear salt water rocket powered space fighter is nuts or Dumb?

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Lord Flasheart

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I like the idea.

The NSW rocket is, (as far as I know) a great compromise between the ORION and NERVA projects. For all purposes, the NSWR is the equivalent of a torch-ship for early interplanetary societies. High thrust and high specific impulses both allow swift movement through the inner solar system.

Qouth http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3c2.html#nswr ,

NSWR: NUCLEAR SALT-WATER ROCKET. This concept by Dr. Zubrin is considered far-fetched by many scientists. The fuel is a 20% solution of Uranium tetrabromide in water. The fuel tanks are thin capillary tubes embedded in a neutron damper (like cadmium) to prevent a chain reaction. The fuel is injected into the reaction chamber to create a critical mass. It is basically a continuously detonating Orion type drive with water as propellant. The controversy is over how to contain such a reaction. Zubrin maintains that skillful injection of the fuel can force the reaction to occur outside the reaction chamber. Other scientists are skeptical. Naturally in such a spacecraft, damage to the fuel tanks can have unfortunate results (say, damage caused by hostile weapons fire). The advantage of NSWR is that this is the only known propulsion system that combines high exhaust velocity with high thrust. The disadvantage is that it combines many of the worst problems of the Orion and Gas Core systems. For starters, using it for take-offs will leave a large crater that will glow blue for several hundred million years, as will everything downwind in the fallout area.

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Personally I think that a wee little fighter with a NSWR is a little too much. For ships of destroyer, frigate, or even cruiser class, Zubrin's propulsive brainchild is most suitable. For those short-range little fighters, chemical or small nuclear thermal rockets are best.

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10kBq jaro

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OK people, let's get real..... I know that this is the "Science Fiction & Nuclear Power" page, but still -- how about just a tad of science-based scepticism ?


May I humbly suggest the following, from the old NS message board :


http://p068.ezboard.com/fnuclearspacefrm4.showMessageRange?topicID=391.topic&start=61&stop=80


Regarding your statement, "It's then just a matter of determining if Zubrin's scheme makes sense from a nuclear reactor design standpoint."


The answer to that would be "no, it doesn't make sense."


Note that the idea has been buried, because it was (unfortunately) a dud.


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(posts series continued to subsequent page at http://p068.ezboard.com/fnuclearspacefrm4.showMessageRange?topicID=391.topic&start=81&stop=95 )


 



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RE: Nuclear salt water rocket powered space fight


I would just add that the pilot would probably want to be far away from the nuclear engine because of the radiated flux of neutrons and gamma-rays emitted by the power source. This is typically why most nuclear powered spacecraft concepts have the reactor on a long boom--far, far away from the crew cabin or instrument package. A small, nuclear powered fighter thus is kind of a misnomer--unless you have some very, very efficient radiation shielding.

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Kevin J Waldroup

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RE: RE: Nuclear salt water rocket powered space f


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Originally posted by: GoogleNaut

"I would just add that the pilot would probably want to be far away from the nuclear engine because of the radiated flux of neutrons and gamma-rays emitted by the power source. This is typically why most nuclear powered spacecraft concepts have the reactor on a long boom--far, far away from the crew cabin or instrument package. A small, nuclear powered fighter thus is kind of a misnomer--unless you have some very, very efficient radiation shielding. "


Large Space Fighter L.F.
Length: 20
Diameter: 5
Crew: 2
Armament: 8 Missiles 1 Turret railgun
SpaceDrive: Zubrin Drive AKA Nuclear salt water rocket powered


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Nuclear salt water rocket powered space fighter


You'd be better off with fusion, besides, fighters don't really make that much sense as most people like to think. The main justification for fighters is that they can deliver payloads where aircraft carriers can't and that they can deliver bombs.

But that's a worthless argument in space, where there is no horizon to limit, where rockets can more easily correct their course then in air and you can shoot bombs out of your railgun.

The only reason why you would want high thrust with an engine that no government would allow on the surface, is to make a harder target. But you can accomplish that with afterburners or chemical rockets even. Besides, manuvering to make a harder target for nuclear missiles is a last resort.

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